Re: The self-suppression of dissent...


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Posted by William Mandel on April 05, 19101 at 14:12:59:

In Reply to: The self-suppression of dissent... posted by Ormond Otvos on January 22, 19100 at 19:53:59:

: Spoke with Bill at the Black Oak reading on Shattuck
: in Berkeley. My question was about the Luddism of the
: Berkeley intellectual community: the seemingly thoughtles
: way they presume that everyone else in America has access
: to the same rich intellectual field that they do. I have
: recently returned to Berkeley from far fields, in which I have
: toiled pretty much solitarily for thirty years, and I'm here
: to tell you that there is a lot more that the average person
: here could do with their rich store of technical and social
: expertise.
RESPONSE BY MANDEL: I am dumb enough to look at this Bulletin Board with
extreme rarity. Sorry. I don't want to put the whole book up on the web,
because I'l like some financial return for the ten years full-time equiva-
lent I put into writing it. Moreover, half the population is not yet on the
Web, and a lot of people who are prefer to curl up with a book or carry it
with them, rather than reading off a fixed screen (lap-toppers are another
category).
The book can be bought from Amazon, from Barnes&Noble, and any bookstore
will order it, charging no more than list price.

: Although Berkeley is a model for communalism and citizen
: involvement, it is largely unknown to the wider world, both
: in the United States and further. Why did it take the WTO to
: make the media sit up and take stock of the roilings of the
: undercurrents? Where were the retired radicals, and gourmet
: organizers? It sure is comfy here, I must admit, and seductive
: in the way that citizenship in Rome must have been during the
: decline. My feelings in this subject are just forming, but they
: tend toward the critical. BMW's and Bronco's aren't thrilling
: me, and neither are fume-spouting '67 Chevies masquerading as
: recycling.

: What's going on? I would have expected a book as good as
: "Saying No to Power" to be available full-text, or at least
: the significant excerpts, on the Web, so it could be discussed,
: but it is not. I am sure I will hear good reasons for that, but
: I'll weigh them against the purpotrted worldwide social value
: of Bill's massive and educational lifestory being widely known,
: with no other admission fee than public access to the Internet.

: I'd cite John Taylor Gatto, or David Horowitz. I'd cite John Horowitz
: and his steady, day by day axe job on the liberal tradition on
: Salon's Tabletalk

: If people are really moving onto the Web for their sources of
: deep opinion, the one they keep private, then there needs to
: be source material. A person could make up their mind about the
: present situation from just reading "Saying No to Power!" but
: they can't buy it from Amazon.com, because it is listed as coming
: out in November of last year.

: Que pasa? Enlighten me.




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